It's very difficult, but I think I see that change now. I really do. I see a change in all parties. Both governments recognize we need to do things differently. We need to combine, we need to stop the silos, environment funding from the low-carbon economy comes from the Ministry of the Environment, yet it's a forestry project. It all comes together now. We've had to live on fiscal to fiscal, and I think one thing where the government...we developed a funding round table. We invited everybody to the table, federal and provincial, every program, even if they didn't have funding.
We almost challenged them and said this is what we were trying to do; could they help us? I think what you can do as a government...Ontario is doing more of it. Come together and look at each other's funding programs and how they can help. Some of our funders couldn't fund one particular thing in a project. They couldn't fund project management, yet project management is such a key thing in a project like this, but the other funders said no, that was one of their cost categories. We left it up to Canada and Ontario on most occasions to figure out the right mix in helping us move forward. The fiscal to fiscal is very hard when you've got a project to develop like this. As I say, if we had been a bigger company, or had the investors to come in and do it, we would probably have been done in three years' time, not the time it's taken us since 2009.