Thank you, everyone, for being here.
Just so you know where my line of questioning is from, we've had a series of meetings on this topic for I don't know how many weeks now. I can't speak for everyone, but I think we understand the value that groups like yours bring to the forestry sector. However, as we go through this, we've noticed something that we might want to take a round at. We're trying to understand the role of government, and that has been a normal question we all have here. We're wondering if the traditional way government has been involved is working for everyone.
Some of the witnesses beforehand have come up with some different ideas. Each one of you has mentioned it, kind of. This isn't Liberal versus Conservative, because some of this funding was under the former Conservative government. This is basically to find out if what the government is doing is the right thing, or if we can maybe make some changes to it. That's where our line of questioning is coming from, just so you know. These questions aren't to badger. It's to get more information.
I will start with you two gentlemen. You're absolutely right. I couldn't agree with you more. The biggest way to solve the issue of poverty is a job. It sounds as if you have a well-paying job, not a government program, and that's what you want to do for your citizens. That is remarkable. That's one of the reasons socialism doesn't work.
Sorry, Richard.