That was my point. I'm hoping that when we make decisions in the future, and now, we don't push ahead with products that are going to limit our ability to produce food. In a few years we'll have nine billion people on the planet, and we'll need every square metre we can find.
I wanted to get back to lignin, which seems like a very good-news story in Canada. There are pulp mills all across the country. Some of them are in various states of difficulty because of reduced demand for paper and pulp. I've asked this of other witnesses, but what's the volume of lignin that you can foresee being used in these industries versus the volume of lignin that is produced? I assume we have an overabundant source, and this will be just a small part of that. Can you comment on how this might boost the pulp and paper industry?