Yes, you're right, everywhere we are having difficulty. In fact, in New Brunswick, in different regions of Quebec, and even in the United States we have some difficulty with labour. Everywhere in the regions we have less and less labour available, and we need to attract new people, knowledgeable people to the regions.
That's the reason I was mentioning immigration. In our head office in Lévis, right now we have eight professionals coming from the African continent working with us. We have three in Saint-Pamphile. We have two in New Brunswick. We have Brazilians. They are bringing more knowledge into the regions, and that's where we need it. Immigration is probably part of the solution. It's not an easy one, but at least in our case we see that it is working as part of the solution.
We also see a lot of effort put into the automation process, particularly in the shingle industry, which is, I would say, in the archaic stage of technology. We've now been developing robots, because that's really labour-intensive. We have to go through that channel and have support to be able to create new technology in that sector. It is necessary and would really help us.