Thank you very much, Mr. Tan, and thank you, gentlemen, for coming today. It's very informative.
At least from my perspective, I'm beyond the point of wondering whether or not we should support wood and other materials that reduce greenhouse gas consumption. I'm already there. Now I want to look a little more at the language.
Mr. Nighbor, you suggested that you don't want to get into amendments, but I need to. I'm looking at what I consider to be the spirit of the bill. I heard you say, Mr. Giroux, that the spirit of the bill is equal treatment for wood and not showing a preference. Can I get agreement from you guys that...
Okay, so when I look at what has been proposed to us, maybe I agree a little with Mr. Schmale on this that it goes a little bit beyond—