Thank you both for coming today. It's nice to be able to get down to the brass tacks of what we're talking about.
Mr. Dumoulin, we've heard, in general terms, the concerns about fire safety risk. I would like you to talk a little more specifically about some of the research your organization has done to demonstrate how Canadians can be confident that mass timber or encapsulated mass timber buildings are just as safe, once constructed, as steel, and that they don't have risk associated with the drying out of the wood or the combustion of the wood. If you could provide some scientific evidence to back up that claim, I think it would be helpful for everyone.