Yes. I'm not the best person in our network, and I can get more information to the committee, for sure, from the person who is. The reliance on other fuels is something we should check and make sure data is being adequately collected. I haven't seen any data—probably because the programs are so new—about the differential impact of the climate change policies, so there would need to be some work to analyze what those possible differential impacts are and then collect that data and attribute it to low-income families versus non-low-income families.
I know they do collect things like age of appliance and age of house. Whether they collect information about the state of the housing would be important to double-check. I know that's something that, for example, the utilities here in Ontario had to delve into when they were developing some of the natural gas insulation programs. A lot of the housing was surprisingly poorly insulated. I don't think that was really on people's radar before they actually started going into the houses and trying to work with homeowners to improve their energy efficiency.
It's a question of specifically looking at all the factors that impact low-income energy consumers' use of energy and whether that data is being collected and is being associated on an income level and a demographic level.