To be honest, we don't have a ton of expertise in Canada in that, although it's improving as different utilities adopt these programs, for sure, and they start to develop in-house capacity. The Low-Income Energy Network has access to an expert named Roger Colton, who has actually been used by a number of utilities both in Canada and the United States as well as by advocacy groups like us. For example, I know he's done work in Nova Scotia, in Manitoba, and elsewhere.
It's because there aren't a lot of people with the capacity to do that analysis. I'm not aware of a huge number of people doing analysis at an academic level either. There was a lawyer named Adrienne Scott who did a master's degree on rural energy costs in Ontario and made her information available to the Low-Income Energy Network, and just spoke at our conference this past month, but that isn't her day job. There's little entrenched capacity, and that's why we think this question of a national institute or a national focus would be quite important to add to that capacity.
In terms of Canadian NGOs, for example, there has been work done by the clinic at Dalhousie University law school in the past. Green Communities Canada has done some work in the past. They were the hosts of the energy poverty conference I mentioned. There is a little bit of work being done by the Assembly of First Nations and Chiefs of Ontario on the indigenous side, but I think it's a very ripe area for more work.