I'd like to make a brief aside for Mr. Généreux. There's something called Dutch disease. Oil is causing both a rise in our dollar and a breakdown in our environmental sector.
Mr. Lefebvre, when you were talking about your measurements, you were talking about $1.2 billion. Well, I can tell you about building a pipeline that will cost $12 billion and buying a pipeline that will cost $4 billion. So we're at $18 billion. In my opinion, that's a staggering amount.
Quickly, I'd like to ask you a question about tree planting. Maybe the Conservatives will like it. I don't know if you're aware of it, but in Australia there's something similar to a carbon exchange: countries that are not able to plant trees on their own territory are going to plant them elsewhere. It would be entirely possible to do so in Quebec and Canada. That is called forest gardening. We have to make the difference, which we did not do earlier, between afforestation and reforestation. These are two different concepts...