Before we stop, I just want to clarify something that Mr. Owen and Mr. Barker said.
My interpretation of some things you said is that softwood lumber agreements are unique in the trade world because the industry effectively has a veto power, whereas, if you're dealing with other trade agreements, you're dealing government to government. In this situation, if the Canadian government and the U.S. government agreed to a deal, the U.S. industry would still have to agree to it. Given that they're continuing to collect these tariffs during this period and not all of them come back, from a negotiating standpoint I don't see why they would give in. That's why we have to go through this legal process.
Is that the gist of what you were telling us?