Absolutely, modern forest practices use a feller buncher to harvest trees, as opposed to the traditional chainsaw approach to it. That may reduce the number of people. However, offering these opportunities—and we're about 85% indigenous company; 85% of our employees are indigenous—has allowed them to go back to the bush now.
You cannot believe the amount of forestry equipment that sits waylaid just at the side because Skeena pulp mill closed, and there's no more market for the pulp log up here. When you have a decadent forest of 65% in some areas, it's impossible to go in there and high-grade the forests, and then you're paying for all the silviculture work, and all that has to be burdened into one.
We have to focus on those issues so that we can bring more of the indigenous people into forestry. Quite frankly, the idea and the concept of reconciliation is born in that area because of the fact that they're the stewards of the land. It brings them closer to it, and they really want to participate. They just do not have that financial, structural wherewithal to make it happen.