Stumpage has definitely been an issue, and with the deterioration caused by both the pine beetle and the spruce beetle, we as a community have done a lot of logging to try to get that to market before it deteriorated. We had a longer life span with the pine beetle; the spruce bark beetle has a way shorter life span, so we got as much as we could.
That's one of the problems we face going forward: We have these stands of timber that are still standing, but they're unproductive. There's no way to log them because the economics aren't available. They just stand, so the area doesn't get replanted and into production. It's a big issue going around—