Just to keep things moving, why don't we do this? I understand that Mr. Lloyd and Mr. Patzer both want to speak. They are in the room, so their hands don't appear on the screen. Why don't we go to Mr. McLean? Then I'll go to those two, and then I can go to Mr. Zimmer. That will give Mr. Simard time to prepare something for us on his amendment.
Mr. McLean, it's over to you.