At the risk of harping on the same point, I believe there's a significant advantage for a raw materials supplier [Technical difficulty—Editor] to sell to. As a Canadian producer, logistically there's a big advantage to selling our graphite to someone in Canada or the United States. That's a better proposition for us than shipping material to China to be processed—or to any other overseas destination, for that matter.
There is an importance to having those additional, value-added steps. Either we're doing them or there's an ecosystem built to do them. From my point of view, that is probably the main driver behind getting things going.
In terms of permitting, it's very much project-dependent. Our own example would be one where it's fairly easy to permit, just because of the specific environmental circumstances of our operation. It will depend, but I do think the estimate of three to 10 years is fairly accurate for projects in general.