Okay, I see there are some other hands up. I will get to you. I just want to make it clear to everybody what we're doing.
This is what we have. Mr. Lloyd has proposed an amendment to Mr. Simard's subamendment. In the circumstances, we can debate Mr. Lloyd's subamendment. Then, we'll have to vote on it, then vote on Mr. Simard's amendment, and then vote on the motion.
I believe, Mr. Lloyd, you had your hand up before Mr. McLean.