I hope I have time for one last question in this round.
Quickly, you mentioned mass timber or engineered wood, which two companies in my riding have really pioneered, not just in Canada but in North America. They are Structurlam and Kalesnikoff. That product is shipped into the United States tariff-free because it doesn't meet the requirements for the softwood lumber tariffs, thank goodness. I am hoping it will remain that way, because these companies can provide really good value-added work in Canada. However, they're suffering too now because of the high prices of the two-by-fours and two-by-sixes they use to create that. They're hoping for these prices to come down and a new agreement to be in place.