Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
My thanks to the witnesses for their presentations.
My question is for you, Ms. Johnson. I talked to a number of experts about the so-called grey hydrogen. I haven't heard from any of them that it's a transitional form of energy. It is important to note that producing one tonne of grey hydrogen generally means releasing 10 to 11 tonnes of CO2. So a number of people think—and I tend to agree with them—that this strategy provides opportunities for the oil industry. Actually, that's what I'm gathering from your answer because your 32 recommendations are seeking foreign outlets for this much-touted hydrogen strategy.
Basically, my question is quite simple. On which scientific study are you basing your presentation of grey hydrogen as a solution for a transition to a low-carbon economy?