As the government embarks on its conservation agenda—and conservation is very important—we often find ourselves in the middle of a debate. Active forest management, sustainable forest management in Canada, is about conservation. About half of our managed forest is under some kind of a conservation measure.
There's no doubt, as the government pursues that ambitious conservation agenda, that there are some groups out there that want to use that as an opportunity or an excuse to just lock down land, to get industry, whether it's mining or oil and gas or forestry, off the landscape. Our counter to that is that our forestry workers are that first line of defence in detecting pest infestations. We are the first line of defence when forest fires are breaking out. It's our workers who are digging trenches and firebreaks and working with local enforcement.
I challenge some of those people who want to get us off the land base, because if you imagine us off the land base, that carbon alternative, that alternative to addressing fire and pest risks in a changing climate, is a very real one. In my Australian—