Okay. I have one last question for FPAC Canada.
Ms. Lindsay or Mr. Nighbor, we've seen the importance of paper and pulp products in the use of PPE, sanitary wipes, hospital gowns and many other necessary products. Mr. Renou talked about biodegradable masks. Can you share more about what work the forest product firms are doing on the PPE front, other than on biodegradable masks?