Absolutely. If you look at the different sources of funding that my organization or the industry bet on in terms of transforming the industry, the TT program, the transformative technologies program, is the bedrock of everything. That's where we explore each technology that can transform the industry and bring it from a low-technology level to a higher-technology level.
From there we can start to make those alliances, those demonstration projects, those next-step projects. That's why we can look at everything from forestry 4.0, which we just talked about, namely broadband, to the industrialization of construction to bioproducts ranging from bioplastic lignin in asphalt to carbon fibre from wood. Every possible stream of bioproduct is explored under the TT program. It's the bedrock. It's from that money, from that effort, that we start everything. From there we can do the rest.