—but I think we can definitely have that conversation off-line.
If I could get back to my questions, that would be great.
My question is for Mr. McKitrick.
You talked a little bit about the idea of carbon leakage in one of your answers. I'm wondering, sir, if you could talk about that a little bit more. I'm concerned about the idea that we should be waiting to see what countries like China or the United States do before we set environmental policy. I'm wondering if that's what you're suggesting.