I'll turn to Mr. Krips.
I was a former species-at-risk biologist in my previous life. I would like him to expand on that multi-species approach, because the simplest way to do that would be to use umbrella species like cariboo and spotted owl. I know those words cause heart palpitations in the forest industry. I'm wondering how he would think that would be simpler to move to a multi-species approach for the forest industry.