Absolutely, they are, and it's a way to diversify what we're doing with our God-given advantage with a lot of biomass.
There was a theme that came up in all three presentations, and that was the softwood lumber agreement. I tied in to it as well.
To expand this, the key is to put in the value of carbon in our buildings. Right now we don't recognize it, but by looking at expanding this concept to the built environment, we really could expand well beyond the residential sector and get a good alternative in Canada, because as I said before, regardless of whether we like it, we have had the softwood lumber agreement under both Liberal and Conservative governments in Canada and Democrats and Republicans in the States. This ain't going away. We have to find a way to look at alternatives.