There are two different approaches to carbon reduction. One is the TIER program, which actually has a cost of carbon, if you will, on large emitters, a price for carbon, and the other is a carbon tax at the federal level, and you don't see the two impacting each other in any significant way. Now you'll have the clean fuel standard as well, so effectively, there are three that will affect your industry one way or another—some positively, some negatively. You don't see these being a lot of, as you called it, red tape to weed through at the end of the day?
On November 16th, 2020. See this statement in context.