I don't know that I look to any particular jurisdictions. I know they do some good stuff in Europe. I still believe firmly that Canada is the leader or is certainly one of the leaders in value-added product manufacturing, specifically on the mass timber and CLT front.
I truly believe that if the timber side of the equation wasn't so restricted or so tightened in terms of supplies, to try and take a piece of that supply part of the equation that isn't occupied by the solid wood sector is difficult. The bigger players, to my knowledge, aren't as involved in the CLT portion as of yet, and they haven't jumped wholeheartedly into it because the timber supply situation is so tight. That is a dynamic that needs to be...through regulation, through government incentives. I know that a lot of the jurisdictions have different controls or a different way they control the land base in terms of tenure and access to the forest. You have to enable supply, to give them the ability to look into these products such as CLT.
I think where the federal government plays a strong role, in conjunction with the provincial government, is in trying measure out whether there's an ability for the re-allocation of tenure to these companies that are innovative and have the ability to provide these mass timber products that are value added. They provide more value to our sector, provide more jobs, and obviously sink more carbon. We can use the CLT; we know there are building codes that are now up to 12 storeys and higher. There's a real demand for this product that we can take advantage of through proper regulation.