Regarding the performance, the procurement policy of the federal government has a key role here. If your procurement policy on federal buildings is funded by the federal government, it's time to put mandatory performance regulations on energy consumption or carbon, as it is done in Europe.
The Americans were probably behind us, but following the new election in the U.S., they might go fast and catch up on those carbon regulations soon. Therefore, it's good timing to do that, because in Zurich, Switzerland, they test this performance carbon calculation per square meter regulation. They then increased wood construction in two years by 50%. It's much better than a technology prescriptive policy or a “wood first”, “please use wood” policy because wood is good.
Let industry decide what is better by fixing strict mandatory performance and we, the industry, are confident that we will win the war on this. It's also a question of legality. If you set the mandatory material to be used, you will face some legal problems from our friends from the concrete, steel and other industries. So the trend is there. Some examples from the federal departments would be very key here.