Yes, there has been a lot of conversation. There's a lot of fireproofing, there's a lot of work being done around communities, but—I don't know how to say this nicely—it's a half-hearted attempt. We're not really making sure that we're putting our best foot forward and are really focused on it.
We should be celebrating the forest industry, and right now, because of the stigma behind cutting trees down, as Brian said earlier, it gets in the way. We're not making right decisions; we're making emotional decisions.