Mario, for technical reasons and because you asked a very straightforward question, I want to give you a straightforward answer. So pardon my English on this.
I think I have an extraordinarily realistic view. I pride myself on that, actually. I think the people who grow up on a rock in the middle of the Atlantic, or grow up as I have in the north, in Labrador, have no choice but to have a very realistic view of the world.
We are the fourth-biggest producer of oil in the world. We are the fourth-biggest producer of natural gas in the world. We have found a way to figure out how to get oil out of sand. That is a remarkable thing. What I have said time and again is that we need that same ingenuity, which has made us the fourth-biggest producer of oil in the world, to lower our emissions. That has now become a crucial thing. Not only [Technical difficulty—Editor] during the pandemic, but also because we have an incoming administration in the United States that is also the number one customer of our number one export. It is changing its priorities. It is changing the [Technical difficulty—Editor] of what we produce and how we produce it. This is essential stuff.
Having said that, Natural Resources is a big department. That is not to take away anything from our forestry sector. I don't disagree with any of your points, frankly, on how important forestry will be in our recovery, how important it will be in a net-zero economy. I am proud of the expertise within my department that has demonstrated time and again, in working with provinces, some incredibly innovative things that we can be doing with provinces on forestry, with the companies on forestry, and increasingly with indigenous peoples on forestry.
It is not a zero-sum game. I cannot take away from the importance of oil and gas as well.