I have a few questions.
I was really interested in some of the conversation about industry, because we're hearing two different things today. One is from the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, which says that if we move towards a cleaner grid with the clean electricity regulations, we're going to push away industry, but I've also heard from the three people here at the table that, actually, this could attract industry and industry is looking for places to invest where there's a clean grid.
I'll start with Mr. MacDougall and then go to the rest of the witnesses. How do you counter the comments being made that, if you move to a clean grid in Canada, you're actually pushing away industry?