Definitely we weren't consulted. That's why we ended up going to court. That's why we created our 1,200-page assessment, our spill analysis, our clean analysis and multiple economic studies. We had to push that and make sure that we were heard. It was every step of the way, from the very beginning with the National Energy Board over a decade ago to present time today.
That wasn't coming across in good faith. From the very beginning, from hiring former employees of Kinder Morgan to be a part of this, they were just showing the direction they wanted to go in, how they weren't going to listen and how they railroaded our indigenous rights.