TMX is supposed to come up with its own spill analysis and it still hasn't. That was one of the conditions.
We did. Do you know what we found, Mr. Angus? Within hours, a million people would get sick. Five hundred thousand birds will die. You have people like my mom, who live here, and I live here. When we presented to the National Energy Board, we said that it's a shame that they're making decisions about people that are going to be here forever. We're not leaving anywhere.
We challenged them with a question: How many of their people live here today? How many of their kids who are adults have moved away already? They're nomadic people. We're not. My mom and me and my family are here forever. The catastrophic likeliness of a spill of over 85% is something that we can't stand for.
That's what we said from the very beginning.