Yes. To put it more in context, I've been in this field for more than 10 years. The evolution is very slow. I would say that before the SaskPower capture plant was started, people were thinking that it was the solution and that we had the solution for clean energy, clean oil and gas, but the fact is that today, that's not the case.
On the other side, in Europe, the price on carbon is pushing a lot of new projects that put CCS or CCU in front.
My conclusion or observation is that the energy, and more specifically the oil and gas sector, has had its chance and has not yet met the target regarding the use of CCUS.