There's no transition to clean energy without the involvement of the energy sector.
As has already been pointed out, you have revenues that can be applied to technologies and you have processes that continue to decrease emissions. I would argue that this is something we have to consider. We also need decarbonization policies that balance economic goals and environmental goals. They must be structured in a manner that recognizes that this is a long-cycle investment time frame.
This goes back to how I originally started my remarks: We are too focused on the short term. These are long-cycle investments. There's no switch. We can't go from system A to system B. It has to be done in a thoughtful way so that we don't decarbonize and compromise our economic opportunities at the same time. Policies need to have certainty, and we need to understand what those look like in order to make those investments going forward.