Thank you, Chair. I'm going to watch for nods too now.
One thing I find very frustrating about a lot of this is that information is very fragmented. One part is looked at. If you don't look at the whole context, it makes things hard. I understand that as time moves on, risks and things change, but that fragmentation is a bit frustrating, I think, for me and many Canadians.
We know there's a recent report from the International Institute for Sustainable Development. It shows that allowing the current discounted toll rate could amount to a subsidy of $8.7 billion to $18.8 billion.
Have you looked into the toll discounts being given to the oil companies and compared what that might look like for a purchaser?