Thank you.
I remember that when we lost all of the silver mining jobs in my community, I went to the retraining centre to visit a friend who was a highly skilled miner. There were 30 guys all playing solitaire on a computer. I asked them what they were doing, and he said, “This is how we get trained to be entrepreneurs.” If you study the reports, everyone will pat themselves on the back and say that was a good just transition, but that's how it goes down in real life.
Ms. Sairanen, I want to ask you about the issue.
We talk about people and we talk about transition, but we need a worker transition that has a worker focus with organized labour's presence. There's a need to have training, bridging for pensions and funding for relocation written in and guaranteed for people who have to move. Could you speak to the need to have that presence of labour at the table?