Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to draw the attention of my good friend, Mr. McLean, to one particular point. I know that he cares deeply about Canada's public finances. If he is looking for pointless spending on financial support, I would mention that in the gas and oil sector, $750 million are spent on the Emissions Reduction Fund, which I think is rather more difficult to defend than support for some other organizations. We can talk about this again later.
Mr. Pineault, I think that all of our witnesses agree that the Canadian government is not about to abandon fossil fuels.
You are maintaining that there is a decline in tax benefits from the oil and gas sector, and fewer jobs. You mentioned two avenues worth considering, one of which is to develop a plan to offset oil production, and the other for us to develop a plan for the transformation of the economy. My impression is that in order to achieve a genuine just transition plan, the transformation of the economy is what's needed.
Have you seen anything to indicate that the federal government is headed in this direction at the moment?