Evidence of meeting #32 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was energy.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Samantha Smith  Director, Just Transition Centre, International Trade Union Confederation
Judy Wilson  Kukpi7, Union of British Columbia Indian Chiefs
Mike Yorke  Director, Public Affairs and Innovation, Carpenters' District Council of Ontario

September 22nd, 2022 / 12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Chair, I'm challenging your ruling.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

Could I have order? I have the microphone, and so I want everybody else to mute their microphones. I've just made a ruling that the challenge to the chair has been accepted—

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

On a point of order, Chair, I'm challenging that ruling. If I can challenge any ruling, I can challenge—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

We'll vote on this first and then—

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

No, no, no. You made a ruling about the challenge, and I'm challenging that ruling. Are you saying I can't challenge your ruling, but he can?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

I'm saying that we have this challenge first—

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

No, no, no. You made a ruling about the challenge, and I challenge your ruling about the challenge. Mine has to proceed.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

—and we have to do that first.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Chair, you can't accept this challenge.

Mr. Chair, you're being a hack here. You're being a total hack. You can't accept his challenge—

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NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Whoa, whoa. I ask for that mike to be shut off, because he's attacking the chair personally.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

This is ridiculous. You can't accept his challenge and not my challenge.

Can we get the clerk to weigh in, Mr. Chair? Can we get some advice from the clerk on this? Would you like to get some advice from the non-partisan clerk on this, Mr. Chair?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

I'm calling the vote.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

You're not welcoming the advice from the clerk? You're not even going to let the clerk weigh in, Mr. Chair? Come on.

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Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

I'm sorry, Mr. Chair, but we don't even know what the vote is.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

If people would cut their mikes and listen to the chair, you would know what the vote was. The vote was that you asked the chair about the new speaking order, and the new speaking order is Mr. Sorbara, Mr. Genuis—

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I would like a roll call vote on that, Mr. Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

The was vote under way and we have seven in favour. All opposed?

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Chair, I would like a roll call.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

Nobody is opposed?

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NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

The vote has passed, Mr. Genuis.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Chair, I request a roll call vote and I requested a challenge to the chair. This is a complete abuse of process.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

Mr. Sorbara, the floor is yours.

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Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I do have the floor, Mr. Genuis.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Chair, I requested a roll call vote. The rules prescribe I have the right to request a roll call vote—

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Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

I move to adjourn debate—