I'd like to say that customers buy our product. That's determined by our customers; that's not determined by us. That's the way global markets work, and at the pace we're going, we're bringing down by 20% the emissions in the oil sands since 2015, and that's just the beginning.
I agree with Professor Jaccard. I don't see any reason why we can't reduce the per-barrel intensity as well as reduce the total intensity and at the same time not reduce production, or even increase it slightly.