In answer to your question about the risk of what I understand to be carbon leakage, if we were to reduce production of Canadian oil and that production were transferred elsewhere, as Mr. Jaccard said, there are ways to avoid doing that by reducing the emissions. But if that were to happen, it's unlikely that overall emissions would increase, because while there has been progress made to reduce the emissions from Canadian oil production and Canadian oil sands production, it does remain one of the highest emissions intensity products worldwide because of the nature of the product itself. So the emissions footprint overall from other sources that would replace it would on average be significantly lower. I'm not suggesting that is what should happen, but as to your question whether there would be a carbon leakage, I think it's unlikely.
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