What every nation that I'm aware of wants to do is to have a comprehensive base of indigenous knowledge in a modern day format with proper mapping and GIS layers that's dynamic and can model vegetative cover and different types of operations, industrial, traditional—you name it.
That knowledge takes money. This is why in my submission I asked for an across-the-board increase to ISC and CIRNAC's economic development funding envelopes, because they have land planning capacity monies in there.
Is 15% enough? Might there need to be some line item increases to the land use initiatives that they have on the radar? Probably. I think the latest number I am aware of was about $9 million for the whole nation.
If you did some math on the 600 nations—let's say 400 of them need work—you're coming up with $30,000, $40,000 to fund very technical work. What you're asking there is quite complex. I would say that you probably need around $150,000 over a number of years for a nation to say, “Hey, we're ready to talk. We can talk to an FPAC member. We can talk to a PDAC exploration miner. We can talk to our own people about what's there.” I think that's part of the knowledge equation.
For nations that look at these other economic activities, I think lot of folks are realizing that many of them now want to be involved on the industry side of the equation, but they want equity, and they want a measure of control and participation. They don't have equity to buy into an existing firm or an existing operation. That's where this $20 billion that is hanging there for tribal initiatives in the south.... What if there were $5 billion for indigenous forestry equity loan guarantees to buy into operations to get the economy moving, to do it the right way according to indigenous nations?
That's how I like to think about things. It's complex. I don't know if I got to the root of your—