The precautionary principle would probably be the number one principle that indigenous nations on the land would move to. I think some of the science is coming out with regard to a more naturalistic and indigenous forest management lens on that land base. When you're talking about free-to-grow prescriptions, mechanical or herbicidal, I think the long-term data now is coming out.
Some of the work that's been done by Dr. Simard at UBC has spoken to this. There's a lot of wisdom in the indigenous...but the highest levels of science are also now saying that a more naturalistic way to manage the land base is better.
What the indigenous forest sector would say—and this is actually all over the world.... I've been all over the world, Mr. Angus, on this. Indigenous peoples will say that they don't want to live in a park, but they don't want to live on a plantation.
I think the chemical treatments that you're talking about in that type of intensity are more towards the plantation style of value system, with you're activity base, sir. They want to be in the middle.
They will say that about half of the land base they will use for cultural, traditional setting aside, giving nature some resilience, some capacity to grow, some capacity to do its thing, but the other half they want to make a living with.
Each nation—and this is where the planning comes through—will have specificity. They may want more protection. They may want less, but they all want to make a living, and they all want to be on that land base from time immemorial to seven generations from now.