With pleasure, Mr. Chair.
I keep coming back to the fact that new materials need to be processed. On one hand, the IFIT program needs to support transformational change, as is the case in other sectors. That's what the program should focus on, but it needs the funding to match the ambition. That is fundamental.
On the other hand, I agree with Mr. Renou that we need codes and standards that are performance-based when it comes to the carbon footprint and emissions per volume, cubic metre or otherwise. That, too, is fundamental.
You are in a room where wood is everywhere. The paper in front of you is also a wood product. I'm in a building made of solid wood. It can be done. The people here are proud of it and they talk about it. We have to lead by example. We need to make that a policy.