I was in Germany last week meeting with the German government, and they were very clear. They said that, if we couldn't get them LNG within the next two years, they weren't interested. They want hydrogen, and they want hydrogen on a major industrial level.
Mr. Gunton, would you think that the $21 billion we're spending on TMX and the massive subsidies that will be given on tolls could be put into a hydrogen economy to make deals in Europe right now? We could put that money into where the Europeans are going, rather than the 20th century economy that's continually being promoted by big oil.