I'll take that question.
I think it's important to remember that oil and gas—especially oil, but gas as well—are used for providing products, developing products or providing services, frankly, other than fuels that are combusted in an internal combustion engine or a turbine, which result in scope 3 emissions, the emissions that go into the atmosphere, which is the problem of why our planet is heating up.
I'll take oil sands for an example. Bitumen is used for asphalt, so we're actually going to need heavy oil production in a net-zero world. Even EVs and hydrogen trucks need roads.
There are other products that are made out of oil that are frankly not emitting, so I think it's very valid for an oil sector to drive itself to have zero emissions in its production.