That seems to be the evidence that I've seen as well. Many countries that have looked for reliable and cost-effective forms of energy have turned to coal. We see that in Europe and Asia, as some of you testified earlier.
I guess the next question is, if oil and gas continue to also be part of that mix and if Canada cannot supply the growing demand.... We know that the world continues to be hungry for energy—if not Canada—and we've referenced the fact that it's going to come from other places.
Let's go into that. What are we talking about when we're talking about....? Even the general population doesn't know what we're talking about when we say “OPEC”. They don't know what we're talking about in terms of alternative sources of oil and gas.