Evidence of meeting #69 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was report.
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5:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
I'm sorry. I'm going to stop the clock. There are about 10 seconds left. I'm getting called for a point of order here.
5:30 p.m.
Liberal
Kody Blois Liberal Kings—Hants, NS
Mr. Chair, I appreciate the line of questioning. I just asked some relatively tough questions of our officials as well. I don't know that the way Mr. Angus is framing these questions.... He can ask them in the House of Commons to the elected officials, but not to our public servants in the way that he's framing them. I think it's a disingenuous line of questioning.
5:30 p.m.
NDP
Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON
Actually, he's the one in these meetings. This is the Liberals trying to interfere with my line of questioning. I want to get an answer.
He meets with them. He told us he meets with them. How often does he meet with them?
5:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
Mr. Angus, you have 10 seconds left. If there is a final question you wanted to put there, then I would like to go to the officials to allow them the opportunity to respond.
5:30 p.m.
NDP
Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON
I will just end on this.
We know that he's had over 6,000 meetings with big oil. We know the Liberals just tried to stop me asking that question. We know that Mr. Moffet is one of the key people meeting with big oil. We want to know, and the public has a right to know, how that is influencing the emissions—
5:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
Your time's up, Charlie.
I'll give the officials an opportunity to respond if they would like.
June 13th, 2023 / 5:30 p.m.
Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
I can confidently respond that no sector, including the oil and gas sector, was responsible for the time it took us to develop the clean fuel regulations.
We responded to the commissioner about the reason these regulations took longer than the average regulations. There were a number of factors there, primarily that it was the first life cycle regulation ever developed in Canada. Then a number of other measures were introduced by the government that we were required to take into account so that we could put in place a regulation that would be durable and based on which.... We've seen billions of dollars of investment in clean fuel as a result of the final text of the regulations.
5:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
Thank you.
Colleagues, we do have resources until about 5:50, given the late start, but I do have a budget for today that I need to get passed. I have also been asked by Mr. Morrice if we would give him, through unanimous consent, two and a half minutes.
5:30 p.m.
An hon. member
No.
5:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
That's not accepted.
I'll thank the witnesses for being here.
Before we adjourn, there was a budget that was circulated for today's meeting. I'd simply like to get this passed. Is everybody in favour of the budget as presented?
5:30 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
5:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
Folks, I had put an in camera session, but that can be carried forward to Friday. The intention is that we'll deal with that at the end of the meeting after we go through the report that we're going to be looking at on federal subsidies.
With that, thank you to our witnesses for being here.
Colleagues, we're adjourned until Friday.