I understand Mr. Des Rosiers, but I would like to give you a concrete example.
I went with you to Berlin, where we met with people from Siemens. If we want to make blue hydrogen, even if we don't want to talk about colour, these people explained to the minister that they felt they would never provide this technology, because there are two important things to remember. The first is market risk, which governments should assume: a hydrogen molecule costs more if it's made from natural gas.
Second, I clearly remember that the Siemens representative also talked to me about technological risk. I'm sure there isn't a government that wants to take on that risk. That's why Siemens will never do an electrolyzer that incorporates a carbon capture strategy.
I listen to Siemens, because these are people who have expertise in this area. One of the biggest energy companies says that we're on the wrong track if we try to make hydrogen with carbon capture strategies, because the costs are much too high. I see that the government is prepared to invest a lot of money in this type of technology, and I wonder whose interest we're serving. Are we ultimately targeting what's reasonable, in other words, trying to decarbonize energy sources, or are we serving the interests of the big oil companies?