I think we certainly are if we don't have carbon policies or credible climate change policies. That's always been my push. We want to have policies that, if implemented globally.... If the world took our policies and every country in the world implemented them, we'd meet global goals. We're at that stage right now with the policy suite that we have. If we step back, we lose a key line of defence against exactly those types of measures you talked about.
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