It's on the same point of order.
Just to clarify, it's not my first time at this committee. I'm an associate member of this committee, as are all the Conservative members. We're registered as associate members, in addition to being legitimate ones.
In answer to Mr. Blaikie's question, the full-time permanent members, or whatever you want to call them.... We are associate members and are invited, as you said, Mr. Chair, to participate in any.... The associate members are defined in the big green book. You can look it up.