Thank you, Ms. Dabrusin.
I do have a point of order by Monsieur Simard. Monsieur Simard is raising a point of order on Ms. Dabrusin's. Mr. Patzer, I do have you recognized on the original point of order from Mr. Angus, but we're in a whole other list of point of orders.
Monsieur Simard raised a point of order based on what Ms. Stubbs and Ms. Dabrusin said, so I'm going to go to Monsieur Simard. Then I'm going to come back.
Go ahead, Monsieur Simard.